Fighting for freerecyling

Top Posts 12: Let’s trademark the horse’s mouth

It has been asserted that it is illegal for TFN to even attempt to trademark their logo.  If you read this post on fcnext you can see an email contribution from the copyright owners behind the trademark asserting that that they have not given permission to TFN.  Still TFN continues to assert its trademark claims.  If someone can explain the logic here I would love to hear it.


September 21, 2007 Posted by | freecycle | Leave a comment

How is Ersatzfriend part of “trademark compliance?”

In one piece of evidence (pdf) submitted on behalf of SunnyvaleFreecycle in paragraph 30 it is asserted that groups that did not have ErsatzFriend as a co-owner where therefore they were not trademark compliant. For these groups TFN filed an application to Yahoo and the group was deleted and Yahoo deleted the groups for not being trademark compliant.

Forgive me for being stupid but how on earth can the existence of an email address being a member of a group ever mean that a group is or is not trademark compliant? I thought that trademarks were to do with logos and brand names.

If I was part of the Yahoo team that acted many times on the existence of ErsatzFriend being deemed a reason for deleting groups I think I would be very concerned and would ask some questions.

TFN have formally asked that this evidence be rejected citing they did not know the person whose statement this is. Note they do not deny the evidence, their objection is purely procedural. Mind you even their “procedural” argument is debatable. The objection cites that there are many 1000’s of volunteers. However this person rose to the status of GOA. How many GOAs can there be? These must be in the 100’s if not less. And this particular volunteer was around for a long time so it is hardly as if he came one day and went the next.

September 21, 2007 Posted by | freecycle, goa, legal, trademark, yahoogroups | Leave a comment

The court papers for two actions concerning TFN has posted all papers relating to the case that TFN is bringing against Tim Oey and that SunnyvaleFreecycle is bringing against TFN.

September 21, 2007 Posted by | freecycle, legal | Leave a comment