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Freegle it is

It is a sad day when yet another heard of group owners decides to break away from The Freecycle Network and create their own brand name.  Very sad.  I do of course wish them well, but they miss an opportunity, imo, a very serious opportunity.

Still Freegle it is.  This is not necessarily the best name in the world.  But that is what the IAFCmods a breaking away to.  They have a stub website available, and no doubt that will grow apace.

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September 12, 2009 - Posted by | freecycle |

24 Comments »

  1. Anyone I’ve asked (who is not involved with the reusing/freecycling movement) reckons that freegle is a lot snappier that freecyle, so… let’s get freegling 🙂

    Comment by freeglefan | September 12, 2009 | Reply

  2. Even TFN is so impressed with the name Freegle that they’ve designed a whole new logo for Freecycle:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreegleUK/

    Need one say more?

    Comment by freeglefan | September 12, 2009 | Reply

  3. sounds like friggle

    Comment by Lyn | September 13, 2009 | Reply

  4. I was sent this earlier today, it looks like the wonderful new banner that you
    are all so exited about is not quite so nice after all.

    Quote:

    Dear David,

    Please forgive me for writing to your thus, Gill gave me your email address as a
    FreeGLE contact, (apparently she has been corresponding with you?)

    I am the “Official” owner of Farnborough FreeGLE, though I tend to leave all the
    work to Gill (who is now my “co-owner”), as she has heaps more experience at
    this sort of thing than I do.

    Gill tells me this morning that apparently there is a “conflict” with our
    Farnborough FreeGLE group, and a local Freecycle Group. Actually, no, there is
    not. There is no Farnborough Freecycle Group, but there is a Farnborough AND
    Aldershot Freecycle Group. (Allegedly, they called it thus in order to cover a
    wider area, rather than have town named Groups).

    My feeble attempts at trying to contact the Farnborough and Aldershot Freecycle
    Group Owners has fallen on deaf or apathetic ears, especially as I am not a
    member of that particular group (or any other Freecycle Group), nor would I wish
    to be a member, so in desperation, and a need for this town particularly not to
    be “left out in the cold” I started the Farnborough FreeGLE group, and asked
    Gill (and Annie, our Mod) to help me with it as my experience of overseeing
    these groups is somewhat limited.
    I fail to see why this would be a conflict of interests. (though for Gill maybe,
    aside from her acrimonious dealings with them many months ago).

    Farnborough and Aldershot Freecycle Group have, for too long, had the monopoly
    in this immediate area. And I have to say that whilst discussing amongst my
    peers, the way that particular Group is managed is detrimental to the concept of
    online recycling in this immediate area. One look at the queues (and speaking to
    the occupants of the vehicles) at out local refuse centre on a saturday
    afternoon is enough to tell one of that fact!

    Now, I understand that Our Gill is also a mod of another local online recycling
    Group, namely NorthEastHants recycle4free which she has requested become an
    affiliated member of FreeGLE UK.
    Gill arranged the opening of that group soon after her acrimonious departure
    from being one of the Owners of Farnborough and Aldershot Freecycle. I have to
    say that the way she was treated by the other owners of that particular group
    (and other locdal group owners) was in a word – shameful. She gave her all for
    that group, but I suspect that since she worked so hard on it a conspiracy was
    sought to remove her. It was enough that she was dealing with cancer at that
    time, but the childish behaviour of those involved in the “conspiracy” nearly
    drove her to a breakdown also. They managed to kill the passion she had for the
    concept of “freecycling” completely.
    It has taken me and others a very long time to re-kindle an inth of that passion
    in her, only for it to be knocked down again by the local and national FreeGLE
    organisation..

    If FreeGLE UK are intending to be a force to be reckoned with in the UK, they
    would do well to look to their own behaviour, before accusing others.

    Yours sincerely

    Robert

    Robert D Laing,
    Consultant Oncologist,
    The Cotswold Project
    also
    Co-Owner
    Farnborough FreeGLE

    Comment by Tim Beer | September 17, 2009 | Reply

  5. I have been a member of Leeds Freecycle.
    I saw a message saying it was now Freegle, no explanation, I assumed it was just an alternative name, then I saw on Yahoo Groups that Leeds Freegle is no longer a member of Freecycle groups……

    Well, I’ve never participated in the chatroom, I just thought it was a good way to recycle stuff, but I think it a bit strange that the group changes were without explanation.

    Comment by soubriquet | September 22, 2009 | Reply

    • Freecycle Leeds did put out several ADMIN messages about the move to Freegle. I’m sorry you missed them. For more information about the move see http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/green-living-blog/2009/sep/10/uk-freecycle-us-network or the history section on http://www.ilovefreegle.org

      It’s the same group run by local moderators just with a different name and no longer affiliated with TFN. We’re not the only ones to have left. So far 117 out of 509 groups have left representing over 40% of former Freecycle members in the UK so you can see the depth of feeling about this among UK mods.

      Ollie Clark

      Leeds Freegle Co-owner

      Comment by ollieclark | September 24, 2009 | Reply

      • I do not agree that you can just close one group and open it as Leeds Freegle. I think you need more than a few admin messages. Why are Leeds Freegle so aggressive towards freecycle or any other recycling groups. It seems you have missed the overall point of what the groups were originally set up for.

        I just want to recycle, not be controlled by some power trip co-owner moderator. Remember why we started doing this.

        Thanks

        Comment by Frank | June 10, 2010

  6. Hi all,

    http://www.ReuseMoose.com is an other alternative you may want to consider. It does not use Yahoo groups but is much more like a free and simplified version of Ebay.

    We have tried to combine the best of Ebay and Freecycle so we can make it easy for anyone to recycle.

    Please have a look, it would be great to get your feedback.

    Happy recycling!

    Comment by ReuseMoose | January 19, 2010 | Reply

  7. Has anyone got any tv’s they want to give up? We live in the Leighton Buzzard area, Heath road, thanks.

    Comment by Karen Kelly | January 30, 2010 | Reply

  8. Any tv’s will be welcome, in the Leighton Buzzard area, thanks, Karen Kelly Heath Road.

    Comment by Karen Kelly | January 30, 2010 | Reply

  9. I must say that Leeds Freegle group is run by a bunch of power crazy militarists!
    I’ve been ‘told off’ for the odd misdemeanors whilst others have been getting away with blatant rule breaking.
    Wouldn’t touch this group with a bargepole and have lost faith in the whole system.
    There are the time-wasters, the greedy people and the rude people. I have given away 100’s of items in the last 2 years but am fed up of it all now, so from now on I’m going back to my old system of asking around friends/family first and then put things in the bin if no-one wants them.

    Comment by Lesley Morrall | March 22, 2010 | Reply

    • I have heard others complaining about Freegle, some reckon it is ten times worse than Freecycle.
      Pop in to http://www.recycle4free to see how it should be done.

      Comment by Tim | March 22, 2010 | Reply

      • I assume you mean recycle4free.com? That website looks like it hasn’t been maintained. How do I find a group in my area? The links are broken.

        Comment by Vince | March 23, 2010

    • It is true that we require members to follow the guidelines in our handbook for the benefit of all members. I’m sorry if you think that makes us “power crazy militarists” but it is simply to allow the group to run as smoothly as possible for the benefit of as many users as possible.

      We do ask our members to report no-shows, time wasters and rudeness to the moderators but we rarely get any reports, just general comments like yours above. WEithout actual reports we can’t really do anything about them but we do take it seriously when we get reports.

      The blatant rule breaking you talk about is probably a minority of messages from members not on moderation. When a message gets through that breaks the guidelines we will warn the member and possibly delete their message and/or put them on moderation again.

      We simply can’t moderate every single member as it would be too much work for the volunteer moderators and also cause unacceptable delays in messages.

      Comment by Ollie Clark (Leeds Freegle Owner) | June 15, 2010 | Reply

  10. Lesley, I think you should really consider using http://www.ReuseMoose.com in your area, this is a brand new service but made exactly to combat this problem and to put the democracy back into recycling.

    This is mainly because anyone can join the site and the giver of the item decides who to give to, not some self-righteous bastard.

    You’d probably be the first one in the UK, but someone’s gotta do it!

    Comment by Vince | March 23, 2010 | Reply

  11. What we really need is get rid of the majority of Reusing sites so we can concentrate on the job in hand, there are far too many floating around the net stating “Come under my Umbrella, it’s better than all the rest”.
    I have been promoting the friendly, local approach for Years so do not see exactly what reusemoose can do for the UK???

    Comment by Tim | March 23, 2010 | Reply

  12. Thanks for pointing out the error Vince, nobody seems to bother informing site owners of errors these days.
    http://www.recycle4free.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&view=categories&Itemid=62

    Comment by Tim | March 23, 2010 | Reply

  13. If you find people to take your items the traditional way, that’s fantastic, exactly what we all want to see.

    When you do turn back to the Internet, consider a site which doesn’t use groups. Groups means less exposure as some groups overlap geographical areas. Nowadays, location services are used by websites to tell you which items are near you. With location based technology, groups are now no longer necessary.

    Next, choose a site which doesn’t use a moderator to decide whether you are allowed to join, or who you can give your item to. This always seems to result in control-freaking and snobbery which is exactly what turned me off to Freecycle right from the start. If you are generous enough with your time to offer an item to anyone, I think the world should be thankful, you shouldn’t have to run it past the gestapo first.

    The Internet is an ideal medium to be able to recycle stuff that no one you know wants because of the potential exposure. It’s quite amazing that what seems like complete rubbish to me, some people are quite happy to pick up, stuff I would not even offer to my friends!

    The state of online recycling is currently in a transitional phase; everyone all over the world is unhappy with Freecycle and other recycling-nazi groups. The logical next step is what’s happening now: new sites are popping up with ideas on how to fix Freecycle. Give it some time, and I think one will prevail in your area that satisfies the two criteria above, and most of all, make recycling fun and easy as it should be.

    Comment by Vince | March 23, 2010 | Reply

  14. Good points, my groups however are set up with no moderators and on a local basis thus allowing adults to be treated as adults and also allowing users to join the Groups covering their area properly.

    Comment by Tim | March 23, 2010 | Reply

  15. Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of arguing between groups who are all pushing for the same cause. This is a great shame an it would be nice to see this come to an end an for people to unite in a common cause rather than fighting each other.

    I recommend checking out http://www.scavenger.org.uk. It is a similar set up to resusemouse.com, taking the best bits of ebay and freecycle to try produce a platform that makes recycling as easy an simple task for even the most internet novice.

    Thanks

    Tom

    Comment by Tom | June 10, 2010 | Reply

  16. Ooh, another opportunity to create yet more confusion.
    Why in hells name can’t we just concentrate on Re-Using useful items instead of trying to convince people that “MY SYSTEM IS BEST” I am on the verge of removing all my sites and groups from the web as all it does is confuse potential members, I had one the other day that was confused about which group to join in her area, after I supplied her with details of 7 possible groups she emailed me back stating it was quicker to take her stuff to the landfill site, see how well it works.

    Comment by Tim | June 17, 2010 | Reply

    • If the lady you spoke to needed to go out and buy bread, would she get overwhelmed by all the choice of bakeries and supermarkets she could go to, and simply starve? My guess is no.

      It’s a fact that, in a free market economy, you will have to make choices and with recycling, it’s no different. So, I’m not sure what solution you are proposing here. If you want to have just one recycling outlet, how is anyone going to decide which it’s going to be? That sounds like a dictatorship to me and you’ll end up with the same problem that started this thread in the first place.

      I know everyone just wants to do the right thing, but choice is necessary for that. It’s what will help the best solution prevail.

      Comment by Vince | June 17, 2010 | Reply

  17. Well this is all very interesting. I thought I was alone in thinking that the Leeds Moderators were heavy handed. I left some time ago in a bit of a huff having been told off like a child – I can’t even remember why now but I don’t think I’d done anything other than made a mistake. Their approach was unpleasant and rude so I won’t go near them aain. I’d still like to take part in some kind of recycling so I’m looking for something similar to the old freecycle and I’m pleased to see there are other places to go.

    Comment by Mags | July 18, 2010 | Reply


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